Paintball Scopes

[Shadow959]

if anyone uses a scope post here. i want to here what people have to say about them. i am looking to get one for my t9 once i do the first strike upgrade. i don't want to spend to much because of course things break but i am willing to spend what i have to for a durable and functional scope. let me hear your thoughts! sniper:)

[prodigy]

K i like ur thinking of actualy using First strike rounds unlike most "snipers".
look on Techpb.com he has alot of videos about first strike rounds and how to site ur scope in when usiong them.
also if ur using a T9 find some way to hook up a regulator of some kind so the pressure is more consistant. idk what the PSI opperating pressure for a T9 reg but u can prob get a standard reg to push out that much pressure.

the only time i have ever used a scope is for siting objects from a long distance. kinda like an on gun binoculars.
Look at techpb and best of luck.

[AKA]

I use scopes, I used to try to sight them in and sometimes with the right marker and barrel and air source you can shoot a grouping in a 12 in. circle at about 50 feet. But I have learned that the right conditions are'nt always there for dependent shots. I still use them though just to sight out things I'm not sure of. Such as arm bands or which way someone way out in front of me may be turned. But I will tell you that the scope does not like paint, full blown hit or spray. Once they're hit they are useless to see through, wiping them just gives you a fog to try to stare through, and unless your carrying spray cleaner and clean dry cloth your pretty much out of luck until your next trip to the car.

If you are looking to sight in your shots I would recomend putting a front sight at the tip of your barrel. And practice alligning your rear sight to your front sight for your best shots. This will keep the weight off your gun and allow you to always have a sighted shot.

If your determined to get a good shock proof, rain and fog proof 3x9 power 4 in. eye relief 6 to 9 in. long 44mm Scope, look into Sportsman Guide.com/AKA

[Krutsie]

My scope is more cosmedic. I have a 6X32 bushnell I picked up used at a gun shop neer Albert Lee. I paid like 25 bucks for it. It sounds funny but I added a end of a flashlight to my scope to make it look bigger. If I want , a pod lid will fit over the front of my scope.keeping it cleen from spray when I'm not using it.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg296/woodlandsecurity/hunt017-1.jpg
This picture was after the HFTC 2009 final Battle. I was quite dirty.

[kyle925]

if anyone uses a scope post here. i want to here what people have to say about them. i am looking to get one for my t9 once i do the first strike upgrade. i don't want to spend to much because of course things break but i am willing to spend what i have to for a durable and functional scope. let me hear your thoughts! sniper:)
You have the right setup for a scope Shadow959 ... coming from a fellow T9/FS user. With the FS, it is so accurate that it is possible to be 200 feet away and hit ur taget, thus the need of a good scope. I had the same inquiry and decided to go w/ the nikon scope. You pay for what you get. The optics on the nikons are so crystal clear that even using ur pb mask does not affect ur line of sight to it. I can attest to this ( and so does Krutsie). With the scope I am using, I was able to do some test firing w/ it ( FS part 2 video) and now I can gauge the distance and how much compensation I need to do for for targets around 200 feet and more. You can get a good Nikon for $80-100 at any sporting goods store.

[Shadow959]

You have the right setup for a scope Shadow959 ... coming from a fellow T9/FS user. With the FS, it is so accurate that it is possible to be 200 feet away and hit ur taget, thus the need of a good scope. I had the same inquiry and decided to go w/ the nikon scope. You pay for what you get. The optics on the nikons are so crystal clear that even using ur pb mask does not affect ur line of sight to it. I can attest to this ( and so does Krutsie). With the scope I am using, I was able to do some test firing w/ it ( FS part 2 video) and now I can gauge the distance and how much compensation I need to do for for targets around 200 feet and more. You can get a good Nikon for $80-100 at any sporting goods store.

hey kyle what did you set your scope to? how many feet? i was thinking of setting mine to 250ft when i get it. that way i know what to compensate for distance.

[Hydrohawk]

I would suggest keeping your primary playing field in mind when zeroing your scope. On a heavily wood field like most of Splat Tag, most of you're encounters are going to be under 150 feet. On that type of field, you rarely have good enough sight lines to take full advantage of the FS rounds. If you'll be playing on a more open field, then a 250 range should serve you pretty well.

I would give one additional word of advice concerning scopes in general. Scopes, by they're nature, constrict your field of vision, which isn't always in your best interest in paintball. Now when combined with FS rounds and good concealment and placement, a scope can be very beneficial. However, using a scope while mobile (ie. patrolling) or in a CQB environment can be more detrimental to your game that not using a scope at all. For that type of play, using fixed iron sights, or red dots (I wouldn't suggest the shotgun style) are much more useful.

my 2c

[cutstep]

i can think of about four places that using a scope at a field like splat tag would be useful for long range shooting, other then that its not useful...... what a scope is useful for on wooded fields is the situation where you are in the woods and in a good position that you dont want to give up if you dont need to .... lets say there are two guys coming down the path and they are fifty feet away..... if you want to keep the position your first shot has to count, and you can only fire about five more before anyone of the other guy on their team can audibly locate you, thats what the scope is for... it doesnt even need to be magnified a red dot will do just fine.

most people end up thinking that a scope is going to be effective because they realy are, when they are playing on a field or in a friends woods when there are five guys to a side..... when there are fifty guys to a side its a different story

[C4 Explosives]

I don't use an FS marker, but the marker that I do use is reliably accurate with single shots up to about 75'-100'. I can see a few fields at ST that have large enough open spaces, specifically Valley, but they aren't so large that you needs lots of magnification. Personally I just use a single pane red dot sight, my rounds rarely veer on the horizontal so I just use the dot to determine lob. Anyways, have you considered a smaller scope with less magnification like an ACOG?

Also, i've found that microfiber towels, which you can get in cheap bundles at places like Napa Auto are awesome for cleaning off my sight and mask on the field, you don't need any spray. Which reminds me i've given almost all of them away to friends and newbies so I should put that on the list I guess...

[Krutsie]

Also, i've found that microfiber towels, which you can get in cheap bundles at places like Napa Auto are awesome for cleaning off my sight and mask on the field, ...

C4 admitted he wipes on the field...LOL To funny WIPER

[C4 Explosives]

C4 admitted he wipes on the field...LOL To funny WIPER

Busted...i plan on picking one of these up for you know, those hard to reach hits...

http://gizmodo.com/5289453/the-comfort-wipe-because-basic-bodily-functions-are-so-archaic

[Stretch]

Our team milsim junkie uses an acog on his decked out X7 with much success. The problem is that they are prohibitively expensive. I have one on my AR and I believe I paid somewhere around $1,200 for it.

[Stretch]

Busted...i plan on picking one of these up for you know, those hard to reach hits...

http://gizmodo.com/5289453/the-comfort-wipe-because-basic-bodily-functions-are-so-archaic

Oh man, too funny.

[Hydrohawk]

Personally I just use a single pane red dot sight, my rounds rarely veer on the horizontal so I just use the dot to determine lob. Anyways, have you considered a smaller scope with less magnification like an ACOG?


Where did you find your red dot? I've been looking for a decent single pane for a while now and haven't had much luck.

[C4 Explosives]

Where did you find your red dot? I've been looking for a decent single pane for a while now and haven't had much luck.

This is the one that I have from specialops:

http://shop.specialopspaintball.com/aim-sports-4-retical-holo-red-dot-sight.html

RAP4 also has them:

http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/blade-holographic-red-dot-scope-for-20mm-rail

Best price on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/NcSTAR-Sight-TACTICAL-DIFFERENT-RETICLES/dp/B001COQOZI


As far as I can tell they are all the same manufacturer, NCStar. I think the milsim and paintball websites mark them way up. I've used mine for 2 years, stripped one of the screws by accident, but I was able to find a replacement, it still works.

[Hydrohawk]

What type of mount is the reddot? A dovetail or Weaver-type?

[C4 Explosives]

From the manufacturer's site:

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LED (Light Emitting Diode) 100% safe for the eyes
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Anodized Aluminum body
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Heads up display
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Unlimited eye relief and field of view
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Seven Position rheostat knob for multiple brightness settings
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Powered by three volt lithium battery (CR2032)
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Includes extra battery, lens cover, mounting tool



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MAGNIFICATION:1X
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OBJECTIVE DIA(MM): 24X34
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RETICLE: MULTI RETICLE(4)
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DOT SIZE:3 MOA
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CLICK VAL: 1 MOA
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EXTERIOR FINISH: BLACK ALUMINUM
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LENS COATING: RUBY
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N.W. (OZ.): 4.20
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LENGTH (IN): 3.25
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MOUNT : INTEGRATED WEAVER STYLE

This sight will not work on any dovetail because the cross screw is meant to seat in a notch on a weaver rail. The only reason that this sight works on my Carbine is because it has one notch in the rail for the stock rear sight aperture to lock into keeping the front/rear bolt linkage arm from flying out of the marker, a lesson I learned the hard way. So through dumb luck it works on this marker without any modifications.

If you're good with a Dremel you could cut your own notch, but I would just recommend finding a low profile weaver that attaches to a dovetail. Just make sure you know the size of your dovetail and go shopping:

http://www.boomingisland.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=753&SEName=scope-rail-adapter-convert-38-dovetail-rail-to-78-weaver-rail

[C4 Explosives]

Actually something like this would be more appropriate, you need a weaver long enough to seat the sight.

http://airgunstyle.com/11mm-weaver-adapter-adjustable-p-18180.html?osCsid=d029569af4b0071bf25307d6c0a19cb3

[Hydrohawk]

I shoot an SP-1, so it comes with rails.

Thanks for the info...(even if we did threadjack this a bit)

[Shadow959]

I HAVE UPGRADED MY T9 TO THE FIRST STRIKE ROUNDS!!!

haven't had a chance to shoot it yet.

[Krutsie]

From the manufacturer's site:

*
LED (Light Emitting Diode) 100% safe for the eyes
*
Anodized Aluminum body
*
Heads up display
*
Unlimited eye relief and field of view
*
Seven Position rheostat knob for multiple brightness settings
*
Powered by three volt lithium battery (CR2032)
*
Includes extra battery, lens cover, mounting tool



*
MAGNIFICATION:1X
*
OBJECTIVE DIA(MM): 24X34
*
RETICLE: MULTI RETICLE(4)
*
DOT SIZE:3 MOA
*
CLICK VAL: 1 MOA
*
EXTERIOR FINISH: BLACK ALUMINUM
*
LENS COATING: RUBY
*
N.W. (OZ.): 4.20
*
LENGTH (IN): 3.25
*
MOUNT : INTEGRATED WEAVER STYLE

This sight will not work on any dovetail because the cross screw is meant to seat in a notch on a weaver rail. The only reason that this sight works on my Carbine is because it has one notch in the rail for the stock rear sight aperture to lock into keeping the front/rear bolt linkage arm from flying out of the marker, a lesson I learned the hard way. So through dumb luck it works on this marker without any modifications.

If you're good with a Dremel you could cut your own notch, but I would just recommend finding a low profile weaver that attaches to a dovetail. Just make sure you know the size of your dovetail and go shopping:

http://www.boomingisland.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=753&SEName=scope-rail-adapter-convert-38-dovetail-rail-to-78-weaver-rail

Very nice mods C4. Did I mention Rap4 is one of our new 2010 sponsors. man they have some neet things.

[Shadow959]

Actually something like this would be more appropriate, you need a weaver long enough to seat the sight.

http://airgunstyle.com/11mm-weaver-adapter-adjustable-p-18180.html?osCsid=d029569af4b0071bf25307d6c0a19cb3

i bought this same mount off of ebay for my A5. works amazing! thanks for the info on the red dot. might have to pick one up for the A5. i have a red dot scope that i use on my 98c made by special forces i believe. for my t9 with the FS upgrade i would like to have a scope that zooms a little bit. as of now my plan is to sight in the scope for 250 ft. at that range i will be able to keep a tight pattern of only 6"

just found this:
http://www.outdoorbunker.com/TruGlo_Open_4_Reticle_Red_Dot_Sight_p/(tru-tg8360b-tg8360c).htm

[Bunker Busters]

not to jack the thread again but has ST even made a decision on the FS rounds yet?

[Cpt. Patches]

i would recommend a wide 3x power scope. It provides some zoom so you can really pin point your target but like some others said, at ST, for example, even with a scope you are only going to have a few places where youc an have a clear shot over 100 feet or so, BUT there are those instances where you can see a straight path, but its too far for a traditional paintball to reach without arching into the branches, and this is where the FS round will have a huge advantage along with the scope.

[Shadow959]

not to jack the thread again but has ST even made a decision on the FS rounds yet?

last i heard they are trying to get a hold of the FS rounds.

[Krutsie]

I thought Darrin posted that Northern command paintball was getting them for Darrin for the HFTC. I think .

[Shadow959]

I thought Darrin posted that Northern command paintball was getting them for Darrin for the HFTC. I think .

no clue. i haven't heard anything yet. it would be nice to know though being i just did the FS upgrade.

[Krutsie]

no clue. i haven't heard anything yet. it would be nice to know though being i just did the FS upgrade.

I'll look for it

http://www.minnesotascenariopaintball.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1600
half way down the first page. I think its Darrins second post on that page, he first says no then he says diferent, read it for yourselves.

[Shadow959]

I'll look for it

http://www.minnesotascenariopaintball.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1600
half way down the first page. I think its Darrins second post on that page, he first says no then he says diferent, read it for yourselves.


yeah i read that thread you made. it still sounds like he is unsure. i hope ST does carry them though. otherwise i won't get as much use out of it as i'd like to.