Camo for Splat tag

[Urban Ninja]

Ok, so I've been going to Splat tag for a couple years now, but I've never really found a camo set that I thought fit in real well. Anyone have anything good? Not really looking for ghillie, more like digi camo, straight up woodland, or anything else? Help is much appreciated

[Thalion]

From my observations, most of the year I would lean towards good old woodland or maybe marpat if you want the digi-look.

In the early spring (before it's too green out) and in the fall, ACU does reasonably well.

Of course multicam works well too.

[Wico90]

i really liked my flecktarn during the GBG

[Urban Ninja]

From my observations, most of the year I would lean towards good old woodland or maybe marpat if you want the digi-look.

In the early spring (before it's too green out) and in the fall, ACU does reasonably well.

Of course multicam works well too.

How well does multicam work in the deep woods? Cause really, I'm planning ahead for the GBG, and I have a habit of spending time in the heavier woods. And, I like the look of multicam, but after last year, I didn't feel like my omnipat worked very well, and multicam and omnipat seem very similar.

i really liked my flecktarn during the GBG
Hm... haven't looked in to flecktarn. Gonna go search it up right now

[Thalion]

Flecktarn does even better once leaves start to turn colors.

woodland is probably your best bet for Splat Tag woods.

[C4 Explosives]

It really depends on how you prefer to play. If you're always on the front rushing then wear whatever, if you spend more time the deep woods creeping then yeah, you'll want to blend in. Opportunist style.

In my opinion, having somewhat of a background in visual arts, color isn't as important in camoflauge isn't as contrast (spectrum between dark and light). Partly the reason color-blind pilots in conflits of the mid-20th century were so useful, color was taken out of the equation, they could distinguish fabricated camo paterns from natural foliage easier.

Anyways, for me, I spot targets on how they contrast from the environment. A guy wearing newer woodland camo almost glows because the dark browns and blacks used in that patern usually show up way darker than the foliage here in the upper mid-west. But if you take a pair of woodland BDU's and wash them several dozen times they fade and that's actually better than a nice crisp outfit because the contrast mutes down to the level of darkness in the woods here. Dudes that wear all black flat out might as well wear red imo.

Guys in Omnipat or desert camo are pretty easy to see as well because the tans in that pattern are too orange or saturated and as a whole the pattern is still pretty dark in contrast. This pattern looks damn cool though and I almost switched over to it, but really it's better for places like the lower mid-west/south-west.

The Marine Corps digi woodland pattern is also pretty dark and easy to see against the environment. It would probably be better in places with more pine trees, jungles, or older forests.

So where's that leave us? Olive drab, Flecktarn, RealTree, and ACU digi. I'd say those are probably the best choices for playing at Splattag. You can pretty much never go wrong with OD as long as you keep it baggy to break up your form, the dirtier it gets the better. Flecktarn is also really good, but you'll have to find it surplus, and don't expect to find too many paintball gear manufacturers to offer things like vests, packs, or masks in this pattern, you'll kind of be on your own for that. RealTree is a good choice because there's tons of patterns and finding it 2nd hand is pretty easy, like at Goodwill or Salvation Army. I like picking up old RealTree flannel shirts and tearing them up to make marker camo shrouds. Again though you'll be hard pressed to find very many pieces of useful gear in this pattern.

And lastly, what I choose to wear, ACU Digi. I like this pattern for a few reasons. For one you can find tons of accesories with it because the Army uses it. Two, it has a light contrast against the environment and the soil in this part of the country blends in with it well, especially when it dries to you, so like OD, the dirtier, the better. Out of all the camos I think that it's the most universal. Like Thalion says it's best in early spring and fall, but it's also more than decent in the summer months. So basically, if you're looking to save cash this pattern can get you through most of the seasons at Splattag, probably winter too.

I usually rock an ACU pair of pants and long sleeve T-shirt and wear an OD t-shirt over top of that and an ACU vest on top of that with baggy neck/head bandannas and ACU mask. Everything that I wear is a few sizes too big for me to break up form.

Something I plan to try out this year is to go with just a marker ghille and a mask ghille with my ACU to break things up some more.

Anyways, sorry to geek out, this is one of my favorite topics haha. Point of all of this is to point out the different camos vs. the terrain. Remember, what looks cool in the parking only looks cool in the parking lot!

[cutstep]

Ive found that at splat tag if you are going to play all year round you should get something that is comfortable to play in like a jersey and some nice paintball pants.... Ive never had much of a problem 'sneaking' if needs be and I wear the WB uniform and a black vest and bright green googles.....

[wicker77]

From what I've seen camo really only helps to a point, and it's mostly how you use it, anyone can go out an buy a ghilli suit, but if you just go out and run through the field with it, it won't do any good... And it seems like with almost any greenish color, with how thick the underbrush is at ST, you can just lay down and not move and will be almost invisible

[Wico90]

RAP 4 actually has alot of flecktarn vests and stuf

[Skibbo]

RAP 4 actually has alot of flecktarn vests and stuf

talk to nchittendon about getting any fleck stuff, he's a rap4 dealer, and got me some great deals on gear.

[Krutsie]

I remember a group of guys in red jerseys come at me like locust ,inflict welts then move on. they were ghosts I think. .......Get the nightmares out of my head.......MAKE IT STOP!!!!! LOL Its not what ya wear there , its how you play!

[Urban Ninja]

Ok, so I guess I'll tell a little about myself, just so I don't get 50 posts about how you play is more important than what you wear.

I completely understand this, that how you play is very important. That you can wear completely unstealthy clothes, and still sneak around. I get all of that, I really do. Now, what I'm looking for is some nice camo that will supplement my sneaky abilities. Like, I know that massive blobs of black, such as a person wearing all black, actually stick out because of how unnatural it looks. I'm just looking for a nice, woodsy, sneaky, camo that will work well mostly in the summer at splat tag. Since, I'm really focusing this on the GBG, and then will continue to use it at other times. So, currently I'm hovering right around digi camo, plain old woodland, ACU(dirty :) ), or possibly flecktarn. I've got time to still research and think, so if anyone else has a good idea, just throw it out there.

And C4, I just wanted to thank you for your very lengthy and informative post. I have found it most helpful :) I know exactly what you mean about the contrast, I know I use it to help spot people. The things that stick out most to me are black, and the really defined colors, like the dark green or dark brown.

[Krutsie]

I was kinda making fun of some good friends of mine . my appologies. lol .
On a serious note what Thalion said is true. the good old Military woodland Bdu's probably are the best. There was a guy that wears Army Digi cam last year that stuck out like a sour thumb. If you go with Digi Cam get the standard Issue that the Marines get. there a darker print. If you interested in sniping my snipers find that the leafy textured mesh shirt and pants you buy at Fleet Farm are the best. At the hunt for the cure there isn't any undergrowth so hidding will be harder.

this is picture of Jamie in his leafy gilly. he swares by them.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg296/woodlandsecurity/DSC00388.jpg

Here's the team at the Hunt for the cure 2008. You see how Jamie and Tokyo wear the light Gillies.


http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg296/woodlandsecurity/DSC_0022.jpg
Wow , what an old pic. lol

Look at the background. there is green grass but no growth on the trees yet. dark woodland would be the best for the hunt.

Now , Is the summer and fall its as thick as ever. This pick was taken at the Battle of Serinity Valley(August). If you can see me in this pic. I was wearing a blk muscle shirt and a tach vest. My wife was right behind me covering my left, she's well hidden but to be honest I think she was hidding because shortly after this pic was taken I got lit up by 10 or so guys on my left. and she was still in the bushes. lol. I got 8 to surrender before I died anyways.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg296/woodlandsecurity/2696795091_6ce41328b4_b.jpg
It gets really thick at SplatTag.

[Sarge]

Tiger stripe is where it's at.
Check out the new tigerstripe valken jerseys.

[MondoMor]

+1 for Woodland and MARPAT. Too many times I've seen ACUs become the opposite of camouflage at Splat Tag.

CC Military Surplus in Brooklyn Park has some surplus Flecktarn stuff, but it's all too small for me.

[Hydrohawk]

Personally I use civilian version of MARPAT (called "Digital Woodland") at Splat Tag as it's usually lighter in weight that the real stuff. I do have some Multi Cam that I picked up for OK D-Day last year, but I'm still on the fence about it...It's a nice pattern and it worked pretty good this past fall , but I've haven't tried it up here in the middle of summer before so I can't say how it'd work for GBG.

I would suggest keeping the color of your gear in mind when you pick out a camo. If, for example, you have a darker patterned camo, but a markedly lighter vest, you'll still stick out like a sore thumb...even if the camo is "perfect" for where you are. Maintaining a uniform pattern is more important (IMO) than what the pattern is.

[Thalion]

Maintaining a uniform pattern is more important (IMO) than what the pattern is.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Consistency will do better. Artificial breaks draw attention, as do human-like shapes (head and shoulders is the common one).

[Urban Ninja]

Maintaining a uniform pattern is more important (IMO) than what the pattern is.

Agreed.

Consistency will do better. Artificial breaks draw attention, as do human-like shapes (head and shoulders is the common one).

Ok, yes. That makes sense. Uniform pattern. Got it. And really, I don't have much gear. I'm a stock class pump player, so even at the GBG it's gonna be me with a pocket full of 12ies and a shotgun shell belt full of 10 rounds. I've got one of the olive and black v-force grillz. So, I guess I should try and get something that will go along with that... or find enough camo to cover everything. Hm... Spec Ops has a digi camo package that's looking pretty good right now...

Oh, and Krutsie, I wasn't taking that like you were saying anything against me :) I've just asked this question in a few forums, and a big response is about how it doesn't matter what I wear, it's how I play. Just wanted to clear that up :)

Oh, and as for that really light ghillie, or even that textured woodland hunter stuff that has like the little fringe leaves on it, does that count for the ghillie rule where any hit, even if it doesn't break, gets you out?

[FIREFLY]

depends your budget & style of play.
I'm a camo heavy person, CADPAT which is the Canadian digi camo for woods is the best for lush green woods.
This year Im going to try MOTHWING spring mimcry which has fern in the pattern which matchs alot of Splat Tags fields!

[Krutsie]

Its all good man. I never intending it towards you. I was getting to a point that Aces High,Pelicans,deadsquad,Mn Mayhem,and for our first year, Woodland Security. Wear jerseys. Heck one guy always wears a Hawaian(sp) Shirt. LOL

[Stretch]

Getting camo gear that is actually made for paintball would be best since its usually alot tougher, keeps you better protected and is well ventilated to help keep you cool in the heat. Unfortunatly it is also more expensive, so if your budget doesn't allow it some good military bdu's should work pretty well.

[Thalion]

Valken has a lot of stuff in various camo patterns - they have woodland, tiger stripe, marpat, and acu from what I know. Maybe more.

[Krutsie]

I usually trash 3 or 4 bdu pants a year. remember ,Barbwire hates me!!!!

[C4 Explosives]

And C4, I just wanted to thank you for your very lengthy and informative post. I have found it most helpful :) I know exactly what you mean about the contrast, I know I use it to help spot people. The things that stick out most to me are black, and the really defined colors, like the dark green or dark brown.

No problem man, great topic, and some great insight from everyone here. I didn't know that Rap4 had Flecktarn, i'm checking that out.

I also agree that if you can get camo made for paintball in the pattern you want and have the cash go for it.

It is better to maintain patterns like Thal said, easier too. Mixing and matching patterns/solids in the same contrast range can work though if you have to piece something together, but you have to keep things in the same color/contrast range.

[Urban Ninja]

Valken has a lot of stuff in various camo patterns - they have woodland, tiger stripe, marpat, and acu from what I know. Maybe more.

Yeah, they do... and looking into it, they look really nice. I might go for the marpat... anyone know where to find good marpat gear? I can find multicam and woodland readily, but not so much with marpat. Cause if I can't find matching gear, I'm not really going to go for it

[Hydrohawk]

I guess it really depends on what type of gear you're looking for. If you're planning on going all out with a full vest, then you're options will be a bit more limited. However, you can find MARPAT MOLLE vest out there (OPSGEAR has a nice one) and using Olive Drab pouches works you won't stick out too much. Multicam stuff will work as well, though it works better when it's dirty.

If you don't need all that, then I don't know what to tell you. I've seen some of the Valken stuff on Action Village that wasn't too bad in the price department, but I don't know about it's quality.

[Urban Ninja]

Are digital woodland and marpat the same thing? Cause they look incredibly similar... and I can't find any marpat stuff on opsgear, only digi woodland

[Urban Ninja]

I guess it really depends on what type of gear you're looking for. If you're planning on going all out with a full vest, then you're options will be a bit more limited. However, you can find MARPAT MOLLE vest out there (OPSGEAR has a nice one) and using Olive Drab pouches works you won't stick out too much. Multicam stuff will work as well, though it works better when it's dirty.

If you don't need all that, then I don't know what to tell you. I've seen some of the Valken stuff on Action Village that wasn't too bad in the price department, but I don't know about it's quality.

I'm a pumper, so really, i just need a vest with a handful of 50 rd pods, a radio holder, and either a hydro pack or something to hold water in.

[Cpt. Patches]

digital woodland is the civilian version of marpat, people just call it marpat because it is basically exactly the same but i believe real marpat has small usmc emblems in it or something.

I personally think that marpat works very well at splat tag because there are lots of shadows and dark tree trunks that it blends into. also the greeness. I looked at that CADPAT and if you could get your hands on that i bet that would be the best camo for splat tag.

[Hydrohawk]

I'm a pumper, so really, i just need a vest with a handful of 50 rd pods, a radio holder, and either a hydro pack or something to hold water in.

OpsGear is the best place to get 50 round pods...actually it's pretty much the only place that I've ever found that sells both the pods and MOLLE pod holders. I use to always use a Tac Cap with my old 98c, so I've picked up several over the years. I actually still use them in my current kit, as they're a nice partial reload for my Rotor. The pouches also are about the correct size for most radios.

You might want to consider a harness instead of a vest with that light of a load out. A good harness will breath easier than a vest and with the 50 round pods, you can still cram a lot of reloads onto one. Personally, I use a vest because I've gotten involved with longer 8+ hour scenario games and I need to carry a lot of gear with me all day long.

[Rogue]

CC MILITARY in Maplewood and Brooklyn Center can outfit you in MarPat/DIGI Woodland bdus. They sell both Propper and Tru-Spec. The Propper versions have a mandarin collar, they're basically the ACU style in the MarPat colors. The Mn Militia chose these as our uniform because they are Teflon coated and don't fade in the wash like the Tru-Spec BDUs do. CC also carries a variety of vests, pods, carriers and most of what you would need to play. Stop out and see what the folks at CC can hook you up with.

http://www.mnmilitia.com/albums/album130/P6030006.jpg

[Urban Ninja]

OpsGear is the best place to get 50 round pods...actually it's pretty much the only place that I've ever found that sells both the pods and MOLLE pod holders. I use to always use a Tac Cap with my old 98c, so I've picked up several over the years. I actually still use them in my current kit, as they're a nice partial reload for my Rotor. The pouches also are about the correct size for most radios.

You might want to consider a harness instead of a vest with that light of a load out. A good harness will breath easier than a vest and with the 50 round pods, you can still cram a lot of reloads onto one. Personally, I use a vest because I've gotten involved with longer 8+ hour scenario games and I need to carry a lot of gear with me all day long.


I think I'm still leaning toward a vest. I might actually need to carry a lot, even though I'm pumping. Water for a while, enough ammor to last through my tank plus extra, radio, ID, might want a pocket for a poncho with how things ended up last year(the horror), and a few snacks. And actually, I'm looking for something like a small backpack, doesn't need to be thicker than 2 inches, but that could hold a Phantom perhaps... was looking at some of those hydration pack holders, might work.

[wicker77]

I think I'm still leaning toward a vest. I might actually need to carry a lot, even though I'm pumping. Water for a while, enough ammor to last through my tank plus extra, radio, ID, might want a pocket for a poncho with how things ended up last year(the horror), and a few snacks. And actually, I'm looking for something like a small backpack, doesn't need to be thicker than 2 inches, but that could hold a Phantom perhaps... was looking at some of those hydration pack holders, might work.

Check out the NXE Extraktion vests, it's basically build your own molle style, with TONS of options, Action Village was the only place i was able to find them, although i searched for them awhile ago so they might be more widespread now... It seems like it could get a bit spendy, but being able to build everything from scratch, and being able to switch between setups would be a definite plus
http://www.actionvillage.com/AVI-Paintball/paintball-ball-hauling-gear-packs-and-harnesses-nxe-gear-packs-nxe-extraktion-packs
(thats the link to where i found them)

[Hydrohawk]

Here are two suggestions I have for vest:

The first is from OpsGear:
http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/1816/category_id/294/category_chain/62,294/product_name/MOLLE+Tactical+Vest

I have this same vest and it makes for a very stable, durable base. You can get it in Digital Woodland and the cost has come down quite a bit since I bought mine. The only down side I have with it is that it can get a bit warm, especially down in Oklahoma (I went to D-Day last year).

Which leads me to vest number 2 (From LA Police Gear):
http://www.lapolicegear.com/511-tactical-lbe-vest.html

This is probalby going to be my new base vest for D-Day this year. I've seen some good reviews about 5.11 and the vest looks pretty solid. It doesn't come in a digital woodland pattern, but does come in OD Green, which still does a good job of blending in once the pouches are on.

Word on pouches:

While OpsGears is pretty much the only choice for 50 round pouches, the pouches attach via snaps and I've had issues in the pass of them coming undone and falling off (I mount mine upside down). I found that using a couple of small zipties does a great job of keeping everything in place.

I would recommend getting "other" pouches from Full Clip USA (http://fullclipusa.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=30&zenid=c864bb6f0a60f3cc9d9181cb813b0589). They make really nice MOLLE equipment that is designed for paintball.

[Hydrohawk]

FYI...here's a shot of my gear during last September's Resident Evil game:
http://www.giantgame.com/paintball/pictures/2009/sept/photos_8/IMG_1069.jpg

If you look closely, I have Multicam pod holders on the back, but really don't stand out once they're dirty.

[Rogue]

Rap 4 also has a sale on now.

This is the Large size (http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/strikeforce-digital-woodland-clearance-vest-large-size). I run with this vest, the front pouches are on large velcro/snapped squares.

And you can set it up with These. (http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/co2/pod-holder-for-tactical-vest-digital-camo)

[C4 Explosives]

The MOLLE vests look like your best bet. I switched over to the SpecialOps Operative vest about 2 years ago and it's worked out really well. It's a little bulkier than the ones Hydrohawk posted because it has a padded collar and neck protector, but the price is pretty tough to beat. They've got them on sale for $20 now, sweet deal, but limited sizes left, and the sizes run a tad big, here's a link:

http://shop.specialopspaintball.com/special-ops-operative-v2-vest.html

I run this with three 100rnd pods though, so a little heavier than you're looking for for pump, but I do use the same setup when I run pump. I actually use three M4(?) mag pouches to hold my pods, got those at CC, you might find smaller ones, I dunno.

The pic below is how I have it set up. I creep a lot so I didn't want them on my belly and I also didn't like the far reach to the back of my old vest so I wear them on my side. Seems wierd, but it actually makes for a good platform to rest my right elbow on for steady shots when standing.

[AKA]

FYI...here's a shot of my gear during last September's Resident Evil game:
http://www.giantgame.com/paintball/pictures/2009/sept/photos_8/IMG_1069.jpg

If you look closely, I have Multicam pod holders on the back, but really don't stand out once they're dirty.

When I look Closely I see some Clown in the background totally distorting your Camo. You shoulda just Lit him Up!:p/AKA

[Krutsie]

You crack me up old man!!!


Rap4(our new team sponsor for 2010)has their 2009 tach vest on sale. 25-35 bucks. thats everything but the back attatchments. should be another 15 bucks pluss shipping. I'm buying one shortly.

I can get ya a 5% discount.
www.rap4.com

[Shadow959]

i've found that during the spring the army digi pattern works very well. but during the summer especially at gbg the realtree camo works the best. i used to wear the woodland bdu's pants and jacket. then switched last year to just bdu pants and a BT jersey for venting purposes. but this year i will be trying out Realtree's APG. i use the realtree ap camo patter for bow hunting and saw the apg and thought of splat tag's woods right away.

[Hydrohawk]

When I look Closely I see some Clown in the background totally distorting your Camo. You shoulda just Lit him Up!:p/AKA

I think I was moving up the middle of a trail at the time so, camo wasn't too important anyway...and I try not to light up team mates...:)

[Komodo]

Or you guys can just not run down a trail and flail around like an epileptic robot :D
I've ambushed and snuck up on people while playing in a red and silver crusader costume during the halloween games. While a nice suit of camo will help in going unseen, the most important aspect in going undetected is to move slowly and move slowly in areas that are hard to detect movement in (ie off the trails where there is more cover). If you're going to be a trail runner, no amount of camo will conceal you. I love seeing Guillied upped players think we can't see them running down a trail because they're wearing ten pounds of shrubbery.
If you stay hidden and move discreetly from cover to cover, you can do alot of damage even if you're wearing a bright red jersey (like I will be doing for alot of this coming season).
The marpat is cool though ;)

[Hydrohawk]

I total agree that walking up a trail isn't too stealthy...:p
I typically avoid doing that but that Resident Evil game was so chaotic (by design) it really didn't matter where you were. I have found that if you're with a group using a trail, the key is to know what to do once contact is made...

[Komodo]

Yeah Resident Evil is a whole different world ha. Especially since any one of your team mates could go zombie and light you up from behind at any second ha

[Shadow959]

Yeah Resident Evil is a whole different world ha. Especially since any one of your team mates could go zombie and light you up from behind at any second ha

lol thats what i did!!! :D

[Urban Ninja]

The MOLLE vests look like your best bet. I switched over to the SpecialOps Operative vest about 2 years ago and it's worked out really well. It's a little bulkier than the ones Hydrohawk posted because it has a padded collar and neck protector, but the price is pretty tough to beat. They've got them on sale for $20 now, sweet deal, but limited sizes left, and the sizes run a tad big, here's a link:

http://shop.specialopspaintball.com/special-ops-operative-v2-vest.html

I run this with three 100rnd pods though, so a little heavier than you're looking for for pump, but I do use the same setup when I run pump. I actually use three M4(?) mag pouches to hold my pods, got those at CC, you might find smaller ones, I dunno.

The pic below is how I have it set up. I creep a lot so I didn't want them on my belly and I also didn't like the far reach to the back of my old vest so I wear them on my side. Seems wierd, but it actually makes for a good platform to rest my right elbow on for steady shots when standing.

I've wanted that Spec Ops vest, but unfortunately I'm a really tiny guy. Skinny as hell, I need medium, and that's still a little big on me. I'm 5'10" and 130 lbs. But yeah... I think I'm pretty set on a MOLLE vest, just for future changes and because I'll be able to do whatever I want with it really.
Here are two suggestions I have for vest:

The first is from OpsGear:
http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/1816/category_id/294/category_chain/62,294/product_name/MOLLE+Tactical+Vest

I have this same vest and it makes for a very stable, durable base. You can get it in Digital Woodland and the cost has come down quite a bit since I bought mine. The only down side I have with it is that it can get a bit warm, especially down in Oklahoma (I went to D-Day last year).

Which leads me to vest number 2 (From LA Police Gear):
http://www.lapolicegear.com/511-tactical-lbe-vest.html

This is probalby going to be my new base vest for D-Day this year. I've seen some good reviews about 5.11 and the vest looks pretty solid. It doesn't come in a digital woodland pattern, but does come in OD Green, which still does a good job of blending in once the pouches are on.

Word on pouches:

While OpsGears is pretty much the only choice for 50 round pouches, the pouches attach via snaps and I've had issues in the pass of them coming undone and falling off (I mount mine upside down). I found that using a couple of small zipties does a great job of keeping everything in place.

I would recommend getting "other" pouches from Full Clip USA (http://fullclipusa.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=30&zenid=c864bb6f0a60f3cc9d9181cb813b0589). They make really nice MOLLE equipment that is designed for paintball.

That first vest is the one I'm looking at buying right now haha. And yeah, those pouches look nice fromf Full Clip. I wonder, does anyone here know much about the V-tac gear? Or Valken in general? They have MOLLE pouches and such, and I was just looking at how they have several in digital woodland.

[Urban Ninja]

Might not actually end up buying any camo. My uncle is sending me a bunch of army stuff (might be ACU, i don't know) and combat boots and such. So I'm going to wait to see what I got haha.

[Brent Kotchman]

Learning how to move in the woods is infinitely more important than what you wear.

Learning to properly use cover and terrain to mask your movements is more important than how you move.

Not using tactical **** that puts a bunch of hard points for paint to break on will keep you alive more than any camo pattern.

Less is always more.

[WreckingCrew]

Learning how to move in the woods is infinitely more important than what you wear.

Learning to properly use cover and terrain to mask your movements is more important than how you move.

Not using tactical **** that puts a bunch of hard points for paint to break on will keep you alive more than any camo pattern.

Less is always more.

Yes brent but this is woodsball and for some people having the Tactical **** as you so delicately put it is part of the draw for them. A well picked out camo pattern is also helpful for concealment. The newer player that doesnt move around alot starting out will find that a nice camo parrern will help alot. Learning to properly use cover and terrain to mask your movements is more important than how you move. comes with experience and as the player develops his skill he will learn to use cover an terrain to his advantage. Just like when you started playing Speedball there was a learning curve. Unless you were a natural superstar??:scared0012:

[Vander]

Someone told me that Brent wears pink chiffon and those new skecher shape ups (to tighten and tone) out in the woods just to prove a point of how BA he is... :D

I think he's related to Chuck Norris.

[Brent Kotchman]

Unless you were a natural superstar??:scared0012:

Basically. I mean, the six consecutive tours of 'Nam and that little "vacation" in Nicaragua didn't hurt...

[WreckingCrew]

Basically. I mean, the six consecutive tours of 'Nam and that little "vacation" in Nicaragua didn't hurt...

wow your still young looking for being a nam vet

I would have pegged your age at about 43laughing:)

[Brent Kotchman]

wow your still young looking for being a nam vet

I would have pegged your age at about 43laughing:)

Nope. Age can be deceiving. I could explain it in depth, but its easiest just to have you watch Highlander and instead of a sword, imagine a paintball gun.

And If I had to guess YOUR age, at least by the use of emoticons: 14?

[MayhemBrando]

Wow you two are terrible.... LOL

[WreckingCrew]

Wow Brent just wow emoticons are a part of life it is nice to see you noticed


Not that we have derailed the topic back to "More Camo Talk" with your host Urban Ninja


moon:)

[MayhemBrando]

Sry to kill conversation but this is a BST... ummm errr I meant a Camo thread last time i checked.
Take it some where else.
;);););););););)quiet:)quiet:)quiet:)quiet:)quiet: )

Bahaha
I had to do it

[Vander]

Wow you two are terrible.... LOL

Actually, I can't get over how polite everyone is on this forum. You guys should hang out with bikers! 300a:)




Keeping on topic: I like woodland camo, personally. But I guess the only reason is I still have 12 sets of them (you guys bought them for me... aww thanks. :D).

Ya'll know that it's movement that attracts attention more, right?

[WreckingCrew]

Ya'll know that it's movement that attracts attention more, right?

Dats what they taught me in da Army "The human eye is more sensative to movement" So keep it "Slow and Steady" But good camo cant hurt


And HIGHLANDER is still a kick butt movie

(No Smiles)

[Vander]

Dats what they taught me in da Army "The human eye is more sensative to movement" So keep it "Slow and Steady" But good camo cant hurt


k... Good. I skimmed over the SIX PAGES of "Camouflage Fashion Weekly" in this thread. I just hoping that the point was made, you know?

oh

and

Ain't
Ready to be a
Marine
Yet

burn...tongue:)

[prodigy]

Sry to kill conversation but this is a BST... ummm errr I meant a Camo thread last time i checked.
Take it some where else.
;);););););););)quiet:)quiet:)quiet:)quiet:)quiet: )

Bahaha
I had to do it
"FAIL TASTIC"laughing:)

one thing u have to understand that with the season change the camo has to change also. this is just color matching and if possable USE ACTUAL FOLIAGE(attach leafs, branches, and what ever else to make it so u are one with the woods).

the real info i have to give u is that profile also plays a big part in blending in. One of the biggest advantages of a ghillie is it breaks the profile(shape) of a person not just the color. You do not want sharp lines if you can help it. this is also done by attaching foliage to what ever vest you want. this info was given to me by my friend right out of USMC Bootcamp.

[WreckingCrew]

Ain't
Ready to be a
Marine
Yet



That would actually spell A R T B A M Y But you Marines will keep trying to spell

[Vander]

Ain't
That would actually spell A R T B A M Y But you Marines will keep trying to spell

Hey... you weren't supposed to notice that.


my friend right out of USMC Bootcamp.

Then you must consider that this information is from someone with a whole 13-14 weeks of experience.
haha...

[MayhemBrando]

As much as I hate to agree with Ken here I must....

A well picked out camo pattern is also helpful for concealment. The newer player that doesnt move around alot starting out will find that a nice camo parrern will help alot. Learning to properly use cover and terrain to mask your movements is more important than how you move. comes with experience and as the player develops his skill he will learn to use cover an terrain to his advantage. Just like when you started playing Speedball there was a learning curve. scared0012:

All right Im going to get hated on here for saying what I'm about to say so here it goes... Paintball and camo... I don't really see a point...

Idk just camo, regular woodland bdu is geared up to conceal at what 300yds... Paintball engagements are at around 30yds... I mean honestly if you can't see some one standing behind a tree from only 30 yards you probably shouldn't be playing paintball.... I have seen tons of kids just do absolutely fantastic in dark clothing out in the woods... Or if you are Rotter you sport the yellow gym shorts and flip flops bring hate that way...

Now for people who's playing style is more laid back and defensive camo is a great idea esp Digi cuz that drops down the eyesight distance considerabley I want to say like 50-40 yards might be less.... Either way to not be seen in camo means to have it on and not be moving. Cuz human eyesight is sensitive to movement.... And to not move in paintball isn't really a good idea..

If I was going to wear camo again I would go with a digi. 1 Its brings down the draw distance 2 Its SWEEET

All in all besides my useless input... Ken I think is on the right path with this camo talky talk...

So now I actually said something useful... How bout them Twins?

[Thalion]

Them Twins? You mean the guys who stole my money to build themselves a stadium, and they won't let me have a percentage of their profits from said stadium?

Yeah, about that....

[MayhemBrando]

Them Twins? You mean the guys who stole my money to build themselves a stadium, and they won't let me have a percentage of their profits from said stadium?

Yeah, about that....

But they serve four different kinds of hot dogs now!!!!:cool:

[Thalion]

Don't forget the tax dog - you pay them ten bucks, and get nothing back for it!

[Frogdog]

I suppose my red nose on my mask doesn't help the camo debate. I think that If your out to have a good time high tech camo doesn't mater. :-)

[Thalion]

Which is why every now and then, I head out there in that bright red/blue jersey. :)

Though normally I just use plain colors.

[Sarge]

"FAIL TASTIC"laughing:)

one thing u have to understand that with the season change the camo has to change also. this is just color matching and if possable USE ACTUAL FOLIAGE(attach leafs, branches, and what ever else to make it so u are one with the woods).

So your saying he should make himself some goggleflauge? laughing:) lol

[C4 Explosives]

I wear teh digi. Brando and the MNM boys have their style and stealth and concealment usually isn't part of it, but they rock out with their tactics, and those tactics dont' really require lots of camo. What all this boils down to is, wear what works with your style of play.

Personally I usually lone wolf it, rush in and then dig in to defend against the MNM style. You need slow, calculated, low profile movement and good concealment to deal with it so camo choice is more important. Just wearing ACU and creep tactics i've almost been stepped on more than a few times by an advancing enemy. There's an awesome rush you get from being within feet of your opponent and just watching them go right past you.

Some play styles are more effective in racking up the kills than others, but what's more important is playing the way you have the most fun, if your choice in camo adds to that then I say go for it.

[MondoMor]

... what's more important is playing the way you have the most fun, if your choice in camo adds to that then I say go for it.

Hallelujah, amen.

My very favorite eliminations have been sneaks through brush, only moving when my target (or someone near him) was shooting. Giant field is great for this kind of thing.

And not moving works great too. AKA, Carlito, Drachen and a couple others looked right at me ~100 yards away at last year's Resident Evil game. They didn't see me, and I lit 'em up when they turned their backs.

[Frogdog]

Hallelujah, amen.

My very favorite eliminations have been sneaks through brush, only moving when my target (or someone near him) was shooting. Giant field is great for this kind of thing.

And not moving works great too. AKA, Carlito, Drachen and a couple others looked right at me ~100 yards away at last year's Resident Evil game. They didn't see me, and I lit 'em up when they turned their backs.

Yea. You shot us up pretty good. I still got you in the goggles:D:D:D:D

[Cpt. Patches]

i like to do what mondo says, if you are trying to sneak up on someone/flank someone, only move when they are shooting because obviously they are paying attention solely to their target and not you, and also there is no way they will hear you over the shots of the gun...even if it is a dm or autococker :P
it is possible to do all of that without camo, yes, but it definitely helps to have camo, gives you that little bit of an edge. when you arent moving its nearly impossilbe to see someone with the right camo